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Mike Norton (manorton)
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How are SWTOR's classes compared to other MMO's classes?

posted this , edited Nov 6 2011 5:24 PM

Would love to see a great list/chart of comparison of the TOR classes against other popular MMO's. This would be helpful for players coming from those games.

Let's see some answers. Compare to:

  • WoW
  • LotRO
  • Rift
  • Warhammer
  • And what else I missed.

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Mike Norton (manorton)

Mike Norton (manorton) posted this Nov 6 2011 3:46 PM

Good job guys. Keep them coming.

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Jesta

♦♦Jesta posted this Nov 6 2011 5:33 PM

Originally I had no idea what direction this question was going to go, but it's turning out quite awesome!

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ForlornPanda
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Mike Norton (manorton) accepted this answer Nov 6 2011 3:46 PM.

posted this , edited Nov 5 2011 9:31 PM

It's difficult to compare everything exactly but in relation to WoW:

Jedi Guardian/Sith Juggernaut - Prot Warrior/Arms Warrior

Jedi Sentinel/Sith Marauder - Fury Warrior/Frost DK/Combat Rogue

Jedi Sage/Sith Sorceror - Mage/Warlock/Priest

Jedi Shadow/Sith Assassin - Blood DK/Unholy DK/Combat Rogue

Gunslinger/Sniper - Hunter

Scoundrel/Operative - Resto Druid/Assassination Rogue/Subtlety Rogue

Vanguard/Powertech - Prot Paladin/Balance Druid

Commando/Mercenary - Resto Shaman/Hunter

In more detail:

Guardian/Juggernaut - Basic Prot Warrior tanking, dps spec is 1h weapon, but essentially plays like an Arms Warrior.

Sentinel/Marauder - Your dual wielding dps class.

Sage/Sorceror - Your caster, pretty much a Mage/Warlock/Priest depending on what spec you go.

Shadow/Assassin - Avoidance tank, similar to Blood DK, dps is somewhat similar to Unholy DK with your mix of melee and ranged abilities.

Gunslinger/Sniper - Hunter, might as well call their specs Marksman, Beast Master and Survival.

Scoundrel/Operative - Resto Druid healing style, some HoTs, some direct heals. DPS is more like Assassination or Subtlety Rogue depending on spec.

Vanguard/Powertech - Hardest one to compare, it's essentially a ranged tank which doesn't really have an equivalent in WoW. I say Prot Paladin because it has the most ranged tank moves but it's not really accurate. DPS style is more of a ranged mix of DoTs and direct damage, so I say similar to Balance Druid.

Commando/Mercenary - Healing is similar to Resto Shaman. DPS spec is somewhat similar to a Marksman/Survival Hunter.

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Seana

Seana posted this Nov 14 2011 6:25 PM

I'd say the Vanguard is almost like a survival hunter in WoW. Tanking by kiting or at range with stuns, slows and interrupts.

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Eskimo

Eskimo posted this Nov 20 2011 4:45 AM

I would say that Shadow/Assassin, despite not dual-wielding, plays like a cross between an Enhancement Shaman and a Rogue. Doesn't really play at all like a DK, in my experience. Also, it's worth mentioning that the Annihilation spec for Ma......
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Anonymous

posted this Dec 4 2011 9:22 PM

I agree with Eskimo. Assassin plays like an Enhancement Shaman with stealth. Melee with short range shock spells. They also have a channeled lightning spell like the priest Mind Sear. Very fun imho. I don't know how the tank spec plays out,......
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Mike Norton (manorton) accepted this answer Nov 6 2011 3:46 PM.

posted this , edited Nov 7 2011 4:09 PM

Update: I will try to update this as new information is available. Updates will be in italics.

I will do my best to answer the Rift side of this to the best of my ability. Some of my info about SWTOR ACs might be slightly off, but here it goes:

Guardian/Juggernaut Tank: Likely very comparable to the various Warrior tanking souls in rift. Particularly Paladin, Void Knight, and Reaver.

Guardian/Juggernaut DPS: 2-handed Warrior DPS souls like Champion and Beast Master. Potentially similar to Cleric Melee DPS souls like Shaman and Druid.

Sentinel/Marauder: Paragon Warriors are what comes to mind. Some similarities to Bladedancer Rogue soul.

Shadow/Assassin DPS: Melee Rogues like the Assassin, Bladedancer, and Nightblade.

Shadow/Assassin Tank: Seems similar to Rogue Riftstalker soul.

Sage/Sorcerer DPS: Mage souls other than Chloromancer and Archon; Cleric Inquisitor and Cabalist.

Sage/Sorcerer Healing: I'm not aware of what all the healing mechanics are in SWTOR, but I have to assume they're going to be similar to the Cleric healing souls. If any characters can heal by casting damage spells, then they could be similar to Mage Chloromancer.

Scoundrel/Operative DPS: Sounds similar to Rogue Saboteur.

Scoundrel/Operative Healing: Again likely similar to Cleric healing until I know more about healing in SWTOR.

Gunslinger/Sniper: Rogue Ranger and Marksman.

Vanguard/Powertech Tank: Probably similar to Warrior tanking souls.

Vanguard/Powertech DPS: Might be similar to Melee Rogue Saboteur and Warrior DPS souls.

Commando/Mercenary DPS: Seems like a mix of Rogue Saboteur, Ranger, and Marksman.

Commando/Mercenary Heals: Assuming this works like the normal Cleric healing souls. Updated information says that the Commando (and presumably the Mercenary) have abilities that increase mitigation and are able to heal small amounts constantly and build up super charge for larger heals in addition to placing buffs that will heal the person when they take damage. These sound like very similar to Warden heal over time spells and the Purifier shields.


So what's missing?

The largest noticeable difference is the lack of support souls like the Rogue Bard and Mage Archon. I do not know if there is a tanking mechanic similar to the Cleric Justicar (take boat loads of damage and be able to heal yourself and your group). I'm also not familiar with the healing mechanics, whether there are HOTs (Heal Over Time) like the Cleric Warden. I do not know if there is anything similar to the Mage Chloromancer that does spell damage to heal the tank/party.

Without knowing details of the SWTOR Talent Trees, it's hard to say which tree is most like what spec. I have heard there is a DOT tree for Consulars and Inquistors, which would be similar to the Warlock and Necromancer Trees. If Jedi Knights and Sith Warriors have abilities that can heal themselves, that might make them similar to Justicars or Reavers.


TL;DR Version

There seem to be equivalent classes except for the following souls: Bard, Chloromancer, Archon, Justicar.

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Reedyn

Reedyn posted this Nov 5 2011 9:44 PM

Nicely answered! =) Love formatting! +1^^

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Mike Norton (manorton) accepted this answer Nov 6 2011 3:46 PM.

posted this , edited Nov 6 2011 4:51 AM

I guess someone has to do Lotro! Here goes:

Guardian/Juggernaut Tank: in Lotro its Guardian, wears heavy armor and shield (this class can dps but its not that good at that) Also the Warden can melee Tank.

Guardian/Juggernaut DPS: the Champion class is the melee DPS, could off tank but not really a main tank. The Captain class could fit in here also, but its a bit weaker at dps but does provide buffs for group but does have a follower which can fight. The burglar can also fit this group, but its not quite the dps monster it is in wow, but will provide more buffing to group then its wow counter part.

Sentinel/Marauder: Again it would be the Champion class and the burglar class, could also consider the Captain Class here also, but it is not as strong at dps as the Champion,

Shadow/Assassin DPS: Lore Master, and Rune Keeper are range dps. Should be noted that the hunter has no pet in Lotro, but the Lore Master (mage type class) goes.

Shadow/Assassin Tank: Warden would be the closest, but while it does have a range attack, the tanking will end up melee type.

Sage/Sorcerer DPS: Again Lore Master and Rune Keeper are all range dps.

Sage/Sorcerer Healing: Healing in Lotro is done by Minstrel and Rune Keeper. The Captain can heal but that class is best for buffing and adding some dps.

Scoundrel/Operative DPS: I would put the hunter and the warden but its range attacks are weaker then the hunter but still can do a fair amount of dps. Burglar class really has no range attacks that can do any kind of significant dps.

Scoundrel/Operative Healing: again the healers are rune keepers and minstrels.

Gunslinger/Sniper: same as the Operative above

Vanguard/Powertech Tank: Warden is the only one I would put here due to lack of real range attacks of the other tanks. Should be note that the warden doesn't have more then an okay range attack.

Vanguard/Powertech DPS: Hunter would be the only class that could really complete in non magic range.

Commando/Mercenary DPS: again the hunter.

Commando/Mercenary Heals: healing classes again are the Minstrel and Rune Keeper

I should add, that Lotro does not match up well to SWTOR classes. Of the 9 different classes 6 of them do melee dps as their damage. The other 3 (rune keeper, lore master and hunter) are the only ones that really do range dps. None of the classes come close to how flexible the classes are in SWTOR imho.

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posted this , edited Nov 7 2011 5:12 AM

Well, I can't really say that I can get into detail about this but I hope that this can answer some of the other players who need more information on this. http://www.theoldrepublicordie.com/2011/11/01/the-wow-gamers-guide-to-star-wars-the-old-republic-characters/

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